The Fearless Futures Podcast

Fearless Futures serves daring organisations - across sectors - ready to actively challenge inequities by addressing their roots, intersections, and lived realities. We facilitate transformative equity and inclusion learning experiences, in-person and online, as well as partner with our clients through consultancy in service of designing equitable ecosystems for people and products. We know inclusion and equity work is really hard. This podcast will take you through a deep analysis of core topics for individuals committed to designing equity into their ecosystems for their people and products. We believe in creating policies, practices, and cultures where people have their freedom, legitimacy, dignity, safety, and belonging. To find out more, please visit us at:

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Thursday Dec 22, 2022

In this special episode, Sable is joined by the other two members of the Fearless Futures Leadership Team, Sara Shahvisi, Chief Learning Officer and Hanna Naima McCloskey, CEO and Founder.
In this 3-way conversation, they explore some of the issues front of mind as they lead Fearless Futures. If you’ve always wanted to see what’s going on behind the Fearless Futures curtain - tune in!

Thursday Dec 15, 2022

Taking risks and taking accountability in the pursuit of equity can be nerve wracking! How does one reconcile the two without losing momentum in the process?
In episode 11, Sable Lomax, our Chief Relationships Officer, is excited to engage in a deep dialogue with Jeremiah Chan, Head of Patents, Licensing and Open Source at Meta, about what it takes to take meaningful action for inclusion in spaces where we are most energised, and how to keep moving forward in the face of failures, setbacks and pressure. 

Thursday Dec 08, 2022

Sable Lomax, our Chief Relationships Officer, is thrilled to be in conversation with Hasan Khair, Co-founder and Managing Director at Mavericks Unlimited. This episode makes space to discuss the personal missteps, discomfort and courage it takes to look inwards before we start and while on the path to equity.
Many of us can relate to the uncertainty, trepidation and fear before taking action for equity, realities that are also shaped by our identities and positionality - this discussion will explore it all with honesty.
This isn’t to be missed!

Thursday Dec 01, 2022

In episode 9, Twanya Hood Hill from Tech Soft 3D and Fiona Mullan from Bloom and Wild join Sable Lomax, our Chief Relationships Officer, for an energising conversation on how HR and Talent connect to the equity and inclusion agenda.
How do HR and Talent teams lead from behind, with humility? How do we build accountability around our inclusion and equity ambitions for company leaders? How do we not fixate solely on recruitment when aiming to building equity across our organisation? Tune in to discuss all this, and more!

Thursday Nov 24, 2022

In episode 8, Joi Torres (she/her), Unity’s Senior Inclusion Program Manager, joins Sable Lomax (she/her), our Chief Relationships Officer, to examine the positives and negatives of representation when it comes to diversity, equity and inclusion work.
Representation can make people feel seen and recognized, but can it be a powerful tool and simultaneously a limiting one for marginalised people? Who ultimately gets to be represented in workplaces, and to whose benefit? How does ‘identity politics’ and ‘elite capture’ play out in companies and in the mainstream?
Tune in to learn more about these, and more!

Thursday Nov 17, 2022

In episode 7, Ebele Okobi - a values-led, transformational leader and advocate - joins Sable Lomax, in conversation on all things ‘disrupting power’!
In this jam packed session, Ebele will tell us why there is no pipeline problem, how to build an ERG with purpose and power and how to push back on narratives that can take hold in companies like the quest for limitless free speech and the demand for political diversity. You’ll leave feeling ready for the challenges ahead and re-committed to the practice of courage.

Thursday Nov 10, 2022

Episode 6, brings Fearless Futures’ Chief Relationships Officer Sable Lomax together with Mark Watson Managing Director of International Agency Services at the Marketing Store Jonathan English, Managing Director of Skeleton Productions.
They explore the almost oxymoronic relationship between structure and creativity, the quick wins that don’t always mean we’ve won when it comes to equity in our products, what to do about gimmicky social justice in so-called creative outputs and in light of all this - what we do when we make mistakes. 

Thursday Nov 03, 2022

In episode 5, Fearless Futures’ Chief Relationships Officer Sable Lomax is joined by Megan Kollar Dwyer, Senior Director, Global Diversity, Equity and Inclusion at Zendesk. Megan shares the core steps to building a robust DEI team, the pitfalls and mistakes that can happen and how to avoid them; as well as practices to remain ambitious when engaging with leadership who might want an easier road than the one DEI leaders have set out for the company.
They also turn to institutional performative allyship - asking whether it can ever be avoided!

Thursday Oct 27, 2022

In this episode, Fearless Futures’ Chief Relationships Officer Sable Lomax is joined by the much loved ice-cream brand Ben & Jerry’s,  Christopher Miller, their Global Head of Activism Strategy.
In this episode they discuss why there can’t be a risk-free stand for justice, why the customer may not always be ‘right’ in the conventional sense when it comes to living out your company values, how the ‘Silence is Not an Option’ press release emerged, and the ways that Ben & Jerry’s incorporates its external radical communication into their day to day work as an ice-cream company - and much, much more. 

Thursday Oct 20, 2022

In this episode, Fearless Futures’ Chief Relationships Officer Sable Lomax is joined by Zack Rubinstein who is the Director of Inclusion Learning at Expedia and Rachel Luff who is the Global Inclusion Learning and Strategy Lead at Expedia.
In this conversation, alongside exploring their internal education efforts for staff to build foundational literacy, they dive into the all-popular term ‘allyship’, including what it is and isn’t - as well as why self-proclaimed allies seem to get tired so quickly…
Sable, Zack and Rachel also discuss the implications of banning ‘political’ discussions at work, as well as the thorny flip side of what ‘free speech’ means in the workplace.

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